JB: What's your personal history with fishing and being on the water, how did you get into it?
NB: My dad strapped a bassinet into the cockpit of his Cal 29 (a 29 foot sailboat) and with my mom sailed from Seattle to Victoria BC when I was 3 months old. I’ve rowed, sailed, swam, windsurfed and fished (not all at the same time) throughout my life. Seattle, where I grew up, is a watery place. If I could live out at sea I think I’d be very happy there. School, girls and work distracted me for a decade or so until my father in law wound up in Port Antonio Jamaica where we fished offshore for marlin, mahi, tuna and wahoo. In 2004 I bought a house in Orient, Long Island. The area reminded me of the northwest with the sound on one side and Gardiners Bay on the other. There’s water everywhere and a very boaty population. I fished from the beach for a few years and then transitioned to boat-fishing. My obsession grew and grew and now I find myself fishing in and around New York City and off Montauk and around Orient. Following the fish wherever they go.
JB: I know you spent time as a sculptor. You have an MA in sculpture from Yale. How does that art background connect to what you do in the kitchen?
NB: I’m a maker. I like to make stuff with my hands. I mentioned clay. I also spent about a decade as a carpenter, and then all the artmaking. Food is just more making stuff with the hands. As I worked my way through the restaurant kitchen I didn’t think cooking and artmaking had much to do with each other and probably at the line cook, sous chef and even to a certain extent chef de cuisine eras of my career it really didn’t. Creative brain and get it done well, fast and in an organized way don’t go so well together. But increasingly I’m finding that my arc in the visual arts world has a big impact on how I do what I do. Zoli is a restaurant adjacent to a museum. Making a restaurant that works in that dynamic is a particular sort of riddle. Also in my role I collaborate with a lot of creative people and having been one for however many decades gives me some good insight in how to make effective and fruitful creative collaborations.
